AI vs. Ethics—Cindy Pham

A leading AI Ethicist demystifies the rules that make usage fair and answers your burning questions

 Many creatives feel AI models are built on the theft of their work, scraping the internet—using their images, words, and music without consent, credit, or compensation. To them, AI is a runaway train, with tech companies moving fast and breaking things, ignoring laws, governance, and ethics in the process.

But is that really the whole picture?

In this episode of THE GRAIN Podcast, I sit down with AI ethicist Cindy Pham, someone who's been working on AI governance long before it entered the public consciousness. She challenges the notion that AI operates in a lawless wild west and offers a crucial reality check.